Legislature(2001 - 2002)

03/22/2001 01:37 PM Senate TRA

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              SB 111-BONDS TO FUND PORTS AND HARBORS                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR ROBIN  TAYLOR, prime sponsor of SB 111, explained  that last                                                            
year the legislature passed  legislation that provided for upgrading                                                            
ports and harbors  across the state.   This was a major part  of the                                                            
commitment  the legislature  made  to the  taxpayers  and voters  of                                                            
Alaska  when  it  said  it  would  begin  addressing   the  deferred                                                            
maintenance needs in the  five year plan.  Because ports and harbors                                                            
do not  fall within the  statewide transportation  improvement  plan                                                            
(STIP), money  was appropriated last year for specific  harbors.  SB
111 reflects a  problem that was occasioned by an  amendment made in                                                            
the Finance Committee to  last year's bill.  That amendment provided                                                            
that each community  would have to pay for and obligate  itself to a                                                            
bond and, upon  accomplishing the  repair, the harbor would  then be                                                            
transferred  to the community.  None  of the communities  that he is                                                            
aware of wanted to do that.   The final version of the bill provided                                                            
a mechanism  the communities  could  not take  advantage of  without                                                            
significantly increasing  the cost to themselves.  The harbors would                                                            
not be transferred to the  communities until DOTPF signed off on the                                                            
repairs.   That process  has never  been used  before.  The  harbors                                                            
were originally  built with 50 percent federal money  and 50 percent                                                            
state money.   Unfortunately, the  state never set up an  account to                                                            
maintain the harbors.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR TAYLOR  explained  that the only  difference between  SB 111                                                            
and last  year's bill is  that SB 111 would  fund harbor repairs  in                                                            
the same  way they  have been funded  in the  past, through  general                                                            
obligation  bonds.   Those  bonds are  backed  up by  a $50  million                                                            
appropriation  that  the  state receives  from  the  Alaska  Housing                                                            
Finance Corporation.   That appropriation  accomplishes the  purpose                                                            
of funding these  projects.  He hopes that additional  funds will be                                                            
forthcoming  from AHFC  and that the  legislature  will hold  to its                                                            
commitment made last year.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR TAYLOR  recommended two amendments to the  committee: one by                                                            
Senator Elton  for funding  to renovate the  harbors in Juneau;  and                                                            
one that includes the Adak  small boat harbor at a cost of $500,000.                                                            
The Adak small  boat harbor could play a large role  in fisheries in                                                            
that area,  especially small  boats that  deliver to the  processing                                                            
plants.   He pointed  out SB 111  will need to  be accompanied  by a                                                            
companion  bill that  will provide  for the transfer  of the  harbor                                                            
facilities and require  the communities to be responsible for harbor                                                            
maintenance.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  TAYLOR  moved  to adopt  CSSB  111(TRA).   There  being  no                                                            
objection, the motion carried.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  ELTON noted  that he hardly  ever completely  concurs  with                                                            
Senator Taylor,  but SB 111  is one of those  instances in  which he                                                            
does.    He believes  Senator  Taylor  is  absolutely  right.    The                                                            
deferred maintenance  task force and the legislature  recognized the                                                            
perfect  arrangement  of constellations  in  which  the state  could                                                            
bring the harbors  up to snuff and then step aside  from the ongoing                                                            
maintenance  responsibilities  by turning  the harbors  over to  the                                                            
communities.    He  thinks  the  communities  welcomed  that  notion                                                            
because they recognize  that ports and harbors are economic engines.                                                            
However, communities  were reluctant to take on that  responsibility                                                            
until the state  brought the harbors  up to code.  SB 111  gets back                                                            
to the original  intent of the legislature,  which was based  on the                                                            
deferred maintenance task force's recommendations.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR ELTON  noted that the bill  may need two other changes  that                                                            
are technical  in nature.  He explained that his proposed  amendment                                                            
(Amendment  1) is  on page  2.   On line  9, the  $34,627,500  total                                                            
amount is changed  to $41,746,500  and after line 23, a new  line is                                                            
added that reads, "Juneau   7,119,000."  On page 3, lines 22 and 25,                                                            
the $34,627,500 total amount is replaced with $41,746,500.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN  COWDERY asked  Senator Taylor  if he is  agreeable  to the                                                            
amendment.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR TAYLOR said he is.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  ELTON  moved  to  adopt   Amendment  1.    There  being  no                                                            
objection, the motion carried.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN COWDERY took public testimony.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. CHARLIE BRANCH,  City of Cordova Harbor Department,  stated that                                                            
last year's  last minute  change put  the transfer  of ownership  of                                                            
harbors on  the municipalities first  and promised to reimburse  for                                                            
repairs  after.   He  is glad  to see  the  return to  the  original                                                            
intent.  He supports CSSB 111(TRA).                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. RAY MAJESKI,  Sitka Harbormaster, commented that  he appreciates                                                            
Senator  Taylor's effort.   Sitka has  been eager  to take over  the                                                            
three  state-owned  harbors,  but  it  needs  the money  to  do  the                                                            
repairs.   Sitka  needs  the  harbors repaired  and  transferred  as                                                            
quickly as  possible.  Any further  delay will cause the  harbors to                                                            
fall into  more disrepair  and cost  more as time  goes on.  DOTPF's                                                            
repair estimates are already  two years old.  It is critical that SB
111 pass  quickly with  no strings attached.  Obtaining permits  for                                                            
repairs could take up to five years.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Number 9993                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  TAYLOR asked  if the City  of Sitka  has already  initiated                                                            
some of the emergency repairs without state funding.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. MAJESKI  said the A, B, C, and  D floats at Old Thompson  Harbor                                                            
were  sinking   so  the  City  appropriated   $156,000  to   replace                                                            
floatation and do some structural repairs.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR TAYLOR commented  that some of these cities are so desperate                                                            
they are having  to go into their  treasuries to repair state-owned                                                             
harbors.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. BILL McLENDON,  Acting City Administrator  of Sitka,  said he is                                                            
encouraged  about returning  to the  original plan  of action,  that                                                            
being the money up front with no strings attached.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS. NANCY PETERSON, Assistant  City Manager of Valdez, said the City                                                            
of Valdez is very supportive  of CSSB 111(TRA).  She agrees with Mr.                                                            
Majeski that  passing the bill this  year would be very beneficial.                                                             
The  City of  Valdez is  in  need of  the money  now  and costs  are                                                            
increasing on a daily basis.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The moderator  from  the Petersburg  LIO informed  Chairman  Cowdery                                                            
that  Daniel Hickman  would  like  to testify  and that  four  other                                                            
participants  from Petersburg  concur with  Mr. Hickman's  position.                                                            
Those participants are  Dean Weeden, Mark Jensen, John Stromdahl and                                                            
John Deboer.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. DANIEL  HICKMAN, a member of the  Petersburg harbor board,  said                                                            
he is speaking  for the members of  the harbor board, most  of which                                                            
were  present.   The board  supports  CSSB 111(TRA).   Petersburg's                                                             
harbors are  in definite need of renovation  and some construction.                                                             
The board  recognizes that  the harbors hold  an important  economic                                                            
position in the  community.  He asked whether the  bill contains any                                                            
local bond requirements  or responsibilities and what the intent and                                                            
timeline is to transfer the harbors to the municipalities.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  TAYLOR  explained  that  two bills  will  be  necessary  to                                                            
accomplish   this   purpose.  One   bill   will  provide   for   the                                                            
appropriation  and the second bill will provide for  the substantive                                                            
change in  law.  The second  bill will provide  for the transfer  of                                                            
the harbors  to the communities from  the state upon the  completion                                                            
of the  repairs.  He  assumes the  repairs will  have to be  done to                                                            
both DOTPF's  and  the communities'  satisfaction.   That bill  will                                                            
probably be filed by Monday.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Number 615                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. ROBERT  PRUNELLA,  City Manager  of Wrangell,  said the City  of                                                            
Wrangell  concurs  with  CSSB 111(TRA)  and  would  like  to see  it                                                            
expedited.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS.  SANDRA MOELLER,  President  and  CEO  of the  Aleut  Enterprise                                                            
Corporation, expressed  support for CSSB 111(TRA)  and the amendment                                                            
to include  work on  the Adak.   Adak  has a fish  processor and  is                                                            
trying to attract  small boats.  Adak  has five to six vessels  that                                                            
are less than  60 feet but port facilities are limited  and were not                                                            
set up  to accommodate  fishing vessels.   Adak  contributes  to the                                                            
general fund through its fish and fuel taxes.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. CHRIS GATES,  also with the Aleut  Enterprise Corporation,  told                                                            
committee members  that the U.S. Navy  has condemned the  small boat                                                            
harbor  on Adak.   A small boat  harbor is  important to  attracting                                                            
businesses and families to the community.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. MATT  ROWLEY,  City of Whittier,  stated  full concurrence  with                                                            
CSSB 111(TRA) and the amendments as presented.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. JOHN BITNEY, legislative  liaison for the Alaska Housing Finance                                                            
Corporation  (AHFC),  said  SB  111  is  a rewrite  of  a  piece  of                                                            
legislation   that  passed   last  year  that   made  various   bond                                                            
authorizations.    The projects  in  SB  111 are  being  added to  a                                                            
section of  last year's bill that  authorized AHFC to issue  general                                                            
obligation  bonds whereby the repayment  of those bonds was  to come                                                            
from the $50 million  dividend that AHFC provides  to the state each                                                            
year.  The bonds  authorized in last year's legislation  were closed                                                            
on  February 7.   The  full  $50 million  was  pledged  as the  debt                                                            
service payment  for those bonds out  to fiscal year 2007.   At this                                                            
time, the full  capacity of AHFC to  issue general obligation  bonds                                                            
has  been completed.    The  package  that was  done  completed  the                                                            
capacity  that was  made  available  to the  state when  AHFC  first                                                            
started doing this in 1998.   This was the first time that a housing                                                            
authority had gone out  and issued bonds backed by its own credit on                                                            
behalf of the state government.    He repeated the capacity has been                                                            
completed  at this  time  and the  full amount  of  funds have  been                                                            
obligated into the future.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR TAYLOR  said he understood  AHFC's  fiscal note but  he does                                                            
not  understand how,  under  last year's  legislation,  had each  of                                                            
these communities  gone out and bonded themselves,  that legislation                                                            
provided the  mechanism for reimbursement.   He asked if  AHFC would                                                            
not have  had any  money available  to reimburse  those communities                                                             
until 2007.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. BITNEY replied,                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     The section in the bill  that offered reimbursement to the                                                                 
     municipalities was an offer  to these municipalities - the                                                                 
     reimbursement  was offered  from the  state general  fund.                                                                 
     The reimbursement  in this case  here was not intended  to                                                                 
     come from AHFC.  There were  two packages of bond projects                                                                 
     in that bill.   There were the reimbursements  that I just                                                                 
     discussed,  as  well as  the list  of projects  that  were                                                                 
     added  to here.   So the  projects that  we're running  in                                                                 
     here were  ones that were supposed  to be reimbursed  from                                                                 
     the  state  general  fund, not  from  the  Alaska Housing                                                                  
     Finance Corporation.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR TAYLOR  asked, had  the municipalities  gone out and  bonded                                                            
themselves  and rebuilt  their harbors  last  year, the legislature                                                             
would  have to come  up with  general funds  and there  would  be no                                                            
bonding capacity.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. BITNEY said that is correct.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR TAYLOR  said, "Well, I guess  we got lied to two  ways then,                                                            
didn't we?  Thank you very  much.  I appreciate your comments John."                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Number 24                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
KURT   PARKAN,   Deputy   Commissioner    of   the   Department   of                                                            
Transportation  and  Public Facilities,  introduced  Harold  Moeser,                                                            
DOTPF's  harbor engineer.    Mr.  Parkan said  DOTPF shares  Senator                                                            
Taylor's  concern and believes  the harbors  need to be repaired  as                                                            
soon  as  possible  and transferred  to  the  communities  that  are                                                            
willing to take ownership of them.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
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MR. PARKAN explained a  few differences between CSSB 111(TRA) and SB
118, the Administration's  bill.  First, the only  difference in the                                                            
list of harbors  in both bills, aside  from Adak and Juneau,  is the                                                            
inclusion  of the Yakutat  harbor at a cost  of $526,000 in  SB 118.                                                            
Yakutat is willing to take  over its harbor if it is fixed.  Second,                                                            
the  funding   mechanism   in  SB   118  is   via  certificates   of                                                            
participation.   Deven  Mitchell, debt  manager for  the state,  can                                                            
speak  to the details  of that  method.   He noted  SB 118 uses  the                                                            
marine  motor fuel tax  as a revenue  source and  issues debt  using                                                            
certificates  of participation  for that debt.   That debt  would be                                                            
issued  this  fall  and  the  money  would  go  to  the communities                                                             
immediately  after that.   The projects  could be  done as early  as                                                            
next  summer.   Using  a  general  obligation  bond  approach  would                                                            
require a vote  of the people in the  next general election  in 2002                                                            
and the bonds  would be sold in the following spring.   Essentially,                                                            
both  proposals look  at addressing  a  need that  is recognized  by                                                            
communities.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  TAYLOR  asked if  Adak was  a  military facility  that  was                                                            
conveyed  to a Native  corporation  and whether  the state  actually                                                            
owns that harbor.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. MOESER, Ports  and Harbors engineer, DOTPF, said  the state does                                                            
not own it.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  TAYLOR  asked if  that presents  a  unique  question as  to                                                            
ownership and bonding and  the capacity of the state to go in and do                                                            
the repairs.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. MOESER  said that is correct in  the way SB 111 is written  now.                                                            
The bill would take some additional language.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR TAYLOR  said he would hold off on making the  Adak amendment                                                            
at this time  to get clarification  on the additional language.   He                                                            
moved a second  amendment (Amendment 2) to include  $526,000 for the                                                            
Yakutat harbor and to change  the totals in the bill to reflect that                                                            
addition.  There being no objection, the motion carried.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR TAYLOR  then made  a conceptual amendment  (Amendment  3) to                                                            
integrate the  funding mechanisms for certificates  of participation                                                            
and  utilization  of the  marine fuels  tax  into CSSB  111(TRA)  as                                                            
opposed  to the paragraph  that  begins, "The  bond committee  shall                                                            
issue ...."                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR ELTON  objected and asked  Mr. Parkan if, in the  process of                                                            
giving  the money  that  DOTPF  raises by  issuing  certificates  of                                                            
participation,  DOTPF is required  to put strings on how  that money                                                            
is used and whether communities  can determine the priorities on the                                                            
harbor fixes that are needed.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  PARKAN explained  that  DOTPF would  give the  communities  the                                                            
money and ownership  and would lease  back the facilities  until the                                                            
debt was paid off, at which point the transfer would take place.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  ELTON  said  he  is  comfortable   with  DOTPF  giving  the                                                            
communities the money to  fix the harbors in the way the communities                                                            
see fit.   He is  less comfortable  if DOTPF  tells the communities                                                             
which projects the money can be spent on.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. MOESER said  it is DOTPF's intent to transfer  the money with as                                                            
few strings  as possible.  Whatever  strings the bonds put  on DOTPF                                                            
will have  to be put  on the communities.   DOTPF  needs to  have an                                                            
interest  in the  properties  in order  to pay  off the  bonds.   He                                                            
repeated  that  DOTPF's  intent is  to  transfer  the money  to  the                                                            
communities so  that they can implement the projects.   The basis of                                                            
the estimates  is on a "shell," meaning that if DOTPF  was going in,                                                            
that is  where they  would put the  money.   However, DOTPF  doesn't                                                            
care as  long as the  money goes  into the harbors.   He stated  the                                                            
communities do need to  establish their priorities and develop their                                                            
projects without any interference from DOTPF.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR ELTON  removed his  objection to  Amendment 3, therefore  it                                                            
was adopted.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR TAYLOR  thanked Mr. Moeser  for the work he has done  in the                                                            
communities  in  his district.   All  of  the harbormasters  in  his                                                            
district appreciate the way Mr. Moeser has assisted them.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. MARK HICKEY,  representing the Aleut Enterprise  Corporation and                                                            
the community  of Adak, told Senator Taylor that the  harbor in Adak                                                            
is under  the control  of the Adak  Reeves Corporation,  which  is a                                                            
public non-profit  corporation  set up under  the Base Closing  Act.                                                            
The agreement  has the harbor ultimately  owned by the community  of                                                            
Adak.  The  community will be voting  for incorporation in  about 10                                                            
days and  that community  is expected  to  be set up  by July.   One                                                            
other harbor  project in the bill  is not for a state-owned  harbor,                                                            
and that is in Nome.  That  harbor is owned by the City of Nome.  SB
118, which  includes Adak and Nome,  has a mechanism to accommodate                                                             
Senator  Taylor's concern.   Under SB  118, the  state would  end up                                                            
with a lease-hold  interest covering  the time period of  payment of                                                            
the  debt  so  that  the  process  of  using  the  certificates   of                                                            
participation  would  be legitimate  for  both Nome  and  Adak.   He                                                            
suggested if the committee  is supportive of doing the Adak project,                                                            
it could treat  Adak consistent with  the way it is done  in SB 118.                                                            
He pointed out  the concern Senator Taylor is raising  is already in                                                            
SB 111  because of  Nome.  Adak  is a little  different in that  the                                                            
harbor is  expected to  be in the  city's hands  by August.   SB 118                                                            
does not allow  any money to be spent  on Adak unless that  happens.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR TAYLOR  said with that thought in mind, he  offers Amendment                                                            
4,  and that  is  to  include  Adak at  $500,000.    He said  he  is                                                            
concerned about that number  because he doesn't think Mr. Moeser has                                                            
had an opportunity  to go out and  see that harbor to determine  the                                                            
true cost  of that  project.  He  said that number  is soft  at this                                                            
point but he will offer  it as an amendment, as well as a conceptual                                                            
amendment (Amendment  5) to include the transitional  language (from                                                            
SB 118) necessary to allow Nome and Adak to receive funds.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN COWDERY  announced, with  no objection, Amendments  4 and 5                                                            
were adopted.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR TAYLOR  moved CSSB 111(TRA)  from committee with  individual                                                            
recommendations.  There being no objection, the motion carried.                                                                 

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